RFK Jr. — America’s Health Secretary — Told Theo Von He Used to Snort Cocaine Off Toilet Seats, Then Laughed at a Vaccine Joke

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Robert F. Kennedy Jr. sat across from comedian Theo Von on Thursday’s episode of This Past Weekend and, within the first few minutes, casually mentioned that the two of them met at a 7 AM recovery meeting years ago.

Von confirmed it. “That’s where we met each other, like 7 AM meetings above the bank over there. That was a good meeting.”

What followed was the kind of exchange that would be unremarkable between two guys catching up about their sobriety — except one of them is the United States Secretary of Health and Human Services.

Kennedy explained that when COVID shutdowns closed their regular meetings, he pulled together a “pirate group” of about 15 recovering addicts and kept meeting in person. They relocated to the Palisades Playhouse — which, he noted, later burned down in the Los Angeles fires.

Then he said the thing that is now everywhere.

“I don’t care what happens, I’m going to a meeting every day. I’m not scared of a germ. I used to snort cocaine off of toilet seats.”

He wasn’t joking. His point was straightforward — addiction would kill him long before any virus would. He’s been sober since 1983. Forty-three years.

But the internet doesn’t do nuance. And the clip is already climbing past 1.5 million views.

But that wasn’t even the wildest part

The conversation drifted to Kid Rock, who had just headlined Turning Point USA’s alternative Super Bowl halftime show. “He used to say he used to have cocaine and oysters,” Von said. “That’s a meal. That’s a meal, dude.”

Kennedy’s response: “I’m saving a seat for him still” — an apparent reference to recovery.

Then Von, almost as an aside, added: “I think he got the vaccine, but that’s just me.”

Kennedy laughed.

Sit with that for a second. The HHS Secretary — whose department rolled back COVID-19 vaccine recommendations for healthy children and pregnant women last year — laughing at a vaccine punchline on the same podcast where he just talked about snorting cocaine off toilet seats.

None of this was forced out of him. He chose to be there.

Now zoom out and look at his week

Earlier this week, Kennedy stood at the Heritage Foundation celebrating one year of Make America Healthy Again. He called the fight against processed food “spiritual warfare.” Wednesday, he stood next to Mike Tyson — who starred in a MAHA Super Bowl ad — and unveiled the administration’s revamped food pyramid. “This is the defining health crisis of our time,” he said.

Thursday. That same man sat on a podcast with his rehab buddy and told America he used to snort cocaine off toilet seats, laughed at a vaccine joke, and reminisced about a “pirate group” of addicts who met in secret during COVID.

Spiritual warfare on Monday. Food pyramids on Wednesday. Toilet seats on Thursday. That’s the week.

The reactions wrote themselves

The clip hit X and split the room in seconds.

“The guy in charge of public health is bragging about snorting coke off toilet seats — like recklessness is a credential,” one user wrote. “That’s not ‘I’m not scared of germs.’ That’s ‘I confuse survival with wisdom.'”

Another didn’t mince words: “I was raised in the 70’s. A lot of cocaine was around. But I never saw anyone so desperate or stupid to snort coke off of a toilet seat.”

“Based on his behavior, I don’t think he ever stopped,” read one post with 7,900 views and climbing.

Protect Our Care called Kennedy “the most dangerous, in over his head, ill-suited person ever to lead such an important federal agency.”

On the other side, it wasn’t even close to a scandal. “The work you’re currently doing removing poisons from what we consume is something we all appreciate,” one supporter wrote. “Your father would be proud of you Bobby.”

This isn’t his first time talking about it

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Kennedy’s history with drugs goes far beyond cocaine.

He started using heroin as a teenager, not long after his father, Senator Robert F. Kennedy, was assassinated. He was addicted for 14 years. He went to Harvard. He went to law school. He used the entire time. His cousin Caroline Kennedy has publicly accused him of encouraging family members “down the path of substance abuse.” His younger brother David Kennedy died of an overdose in 1984.

In 1983, Kennedy fell violently ill on a flight to South Dakota. He had heroin in his luggage. He was arrested, pleaded guilty to a felony, and checked into treatment two days later. He’s said more than once that the arrest saved his life.

So what’s the actual issue here?

Kennedy has never hidden who he was. What’s making this clip go viral is who he is now — and what he was doing 72 hours before he said it.

His supporters will tell you that’s exactly the point. He’s been to the bottom. He clawed his way out. That’s why he fights for public health now.

His critics will tell you there’s a difference between being honest about your past and being the nation’s top health official joking about it on a podcast between Kid Rock anecdotes and vaccine punchlines.

The clip is still climbing. The comments are already a war zone. And somewhere, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has probably already moved on to whatever’s next — which, if this week is any indication, could be literally anything.